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Concerning the Foldvary: The Real Reason for the Iraq War article:
NOtthing is giong to get done typing about it
--abcd
az
The publisher replies:
Did you type that message? Thanks anyway.
Thursday, October 2, 2008
Concerning the Foldvary: The Real Reason for the Iraq War
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THIS IS A REALLY GOOD REPORT ON THE IRAQ WAR IT HAS MAGNIFICENT POINT ABOUT WHAT GOING ON. THIS SHOULD BE ON THE NEWS BECAUSE THE WORLD SHOULD NOW WHAT THE REAL REASON WHY WHERE AT WAR AND WHAT BUSH HAS DONE.
--Jessica Tinnin
jessicatinnin@gmail.com
Thursday, November 15, 2007
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well yea im against the war but then im not. the reason because is i dont think that if your country gets attacked then you should just sit around and no tdo nothing. we should go to war with them. but then i think that if we kill whoever done this then his/her followers will do something else. so i really dont know.
--angela williams
angela_williams842(at)yahoo.com
Wednesday, October 31, 2007
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How can that be the only reason when oil is the main problem for the U.S. ?
--Sarie Henderson
softblqts(at)sbcglobal.com
Thursday, August 9, 2007
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It is a great reason (terrorism) for our leaders to start a war. But dont people think that if we spent what we have so far, and are going to in the future, on this war, that that money couldve been used to defend our country against future terrorist attacks right on our own soil. We should build up our internal defenses and forget about what is going on over there. Finding alternative fuel and power sources would be this countries best bet right now, not war. Also all Americans need to look in the mirror and ask themselves if they are doing enough to reduce our dependence in foreign oil. You Americans are so arrogant that you cannot see the real reasons why these wars happen. Purely for power and control. Please wake up America! Lets do this the right way and save our men and women and get our noses back in our own business right here. I believe its the only way, but, who am i? God Bless America and all of you who are supporting our soldiers.
--stephan dill
stepwdill(at)hotmail.com
Thursday, May 3, 2007
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I think that we should have our troops come home to their families because there is too much killing, it cost too much money, and to much violence!
--tonya
tonyamarielee(at)yahoo.com
Tuesday, March 13, 2007
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this is the third time i start this email. how do i voice an opinion with out lashing out at you. i guess i cant so this is where it ends. good luck on the hegemony thing just dont try it with me or my family
--jake
jake5(at)hotmail.com
The publisher replies:
We oppose hegemony. I hope you understood that from reading the article.
Friday September 30, 2005
Concerning the Foldvary: The Real Reason for the Iraq War
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I dont know exactly how old this article is but I do believe you make some valid points. I dont think that misleading the public is the correct answer to promote reasoning behind war. This is one of the main reasons people view the war with a negative view. If there is a problem that our American government feels they have a need to control, why not just be truthful about it. The fact that govt. officials lied is why it seems that there must be some kind of greed behind the war. As a people we are trying to justify the rational of the war and we are left with only a few options. If you can believe there is more to the war than meets the eye, why hasn't the president told us that. Would'nt it seem logical as a leader to be honest when you are going to send others in harms way.
--Emmanuel
ebezzell34@hotmail.com
Thursday June 16, 2005
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I think the real reason behind the war on Iraq is because of the dominance we would hold on Iraq's oil fields. I mean President Bush's family is in the oil industry, right? It would be so fortunate for the Bushes to control the oil production in Iraq. But how could we shield Americans' eyes as to the real reason for the war? Let's tell them that we are fighting for our protection and against terriorism and make them want to support the war. There is alot of Americans who believe what we are doing is right, you can tell by those who fly flags and put magnetic yellow ribbons on their cars. The war on Iraq is a total fabrication and if the majority of Americans found that out,how many would take down those flags and rip off the ribbons? Why do we allow those in higher offices the ability to lie to us and get away with it? I still agree that we should support the troops in Iraq -- they are still risking their lives so that we can fill up our cars with $2.00/gal of gas and drive to our routine capitalist controlled jobs. I'm so glad people are dying for that(sarcasim). I wish that the children of those controlling this war were involved -- perhaps they reconsider their lies. Also, isn't ironic that both Bushes went after the same guy in their terms of office. Think about that.
--Alexandria Thacker
hurley5553@hotmail.com
The publisher replies:
By the way, most of the people that I know of who fly US flags, as well as those who do not, think that the wars against Afghanistan and Iraq are wrong.
Wednesday June 8, 2005
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I am absolutely amazed that nobody has come up with the argument, that the reason why america attacked Iraq, was because they were 100% sure that they did NOT have WMDs. If there was even the slightest chance they did have WMDs, diplomacy would have been used. Would america attack Pakistan, India, England, France, etc... The answer is NO, because they all have nuclear weapons and other WMDs. America bribed all the surrounding nations of Iraq, not to interfear, and bribed all the senior people in Iraq beforehand. This was not a war, it was an open invitation by Shi-ites (Muslims), and the kurds to come in and give them power over the sunnis. It would be a REAL war, if america attacked Iran or north korea or pakistan or india etc... tens of thousands, if not hundreads of thousands of amercians would die. The reason why america wants to establish demoracy in Iraq is very simple, america can manipulate and bribe politicians to get what they want, whereas it is impossible to bribe a dictator, if he does not agree with your policies. As democracy stands in the world at the moment, it is nothing more than a dictatorship controlled by big business. All politicans are corrupt and follow the policies of the highest bribers from big business. Like all political systems or types of governments in the world which have occurred in the past and present, start with good utopian values, like the "american way/dream", people are excited and think it is great and a great economy comes into existance. It follows a "classic bell curve", at it's height it starts to think it is the will of god and becomes arrogant and then corruption sets in. They start doing more and more immoral things, just like a child pushing boundaries. The same happened to the roman empire, the egyptian empire, the russians, etc... Eventually, when God decides that a people are going down the wrong path, God destroys them completely, but this happens in small increments and people do not notice. In 50 to 100 years time, america will be remembered just like the roman empire. The future super power is China, as predicted by "Arthur C Clark" author of 2001, 3001, more than 30 years ago. All powers or nations have their "moment in the sun", but to sustain that moment in the sun, liberalism is the prime enemy, which allows people to become more and more morally corrupt. The difference between a child and a real grown up is that a real grown up takes complete and full responsibility for his/her actions and never blames other people of things. It is all about "karma", if you think good positive thoughts all the time then your life is better. I could go on and on, but I expect you are getting a bit tired.
Best Regards
--James King
gfh777@hotmail.com
The publisher replies:
Thanks a lot for your analysis.
Wednesday March 10, 2004
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My Foldvary, I have NEVER heard so much bullshit in my entire life. Is George Bush a mate of yours??
John S
--John S
ombre547@hotmail.com
Thursday April 10, 2003
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I recommend Mr. Foldvary read Cato Policy Analysis No. 159, dated August 16, 1999. If after reading this he still thinks this is not about access to natural recsources and oil, then give facts and actions that refute this position and position of this Policy Analysis.
Let me quote one sentence from this paper. _If the chief natural resource of the Middle East were bananas, the region would not have attracted the attention of U.S. policymakers as it has for decades._
--Michael J. Cykana
TX
Friday April 4, 2003
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Nice try, but no cigar. There are real profit motives, and these are clearly expressed by the beneficiaries thereof. The Dallas Business Journal recently acknowledged that Texas oil companies stand to gain the most from the post-Saddam Iraqi oil business, which will be turned from a state-owned and run operation, to a privatized one. Two, you seem to be unaware of the Project for a New American Century and their goals of attacking Iraq even before 9-11. Oh, we have thought about the motives, but you apparently think you are the only one. But you haven't done your homework. You're just guessing about the motives from the face of it, not investigating the real motives. Did you know that Halliburton has a multi-billion dollar interest in the war, since they will be a subcontractor to rebuild what others have contracts to destroy? Have you not even considered the huge pay off to the giant players military industrial complex and what the war means in contracts? Apparently not. Instead, YOU base YOUR conclusion on superficial evidence of 9-11 and averting terrorism. This is very close to the propaganda turned out by the state, but you are telling US that we do not want to think???!!! Also, how dumb could you be or how dumb do you suppose this adminstration to be to suppose that they imagine this war will win friends and influence enemies. Oh, far from it! Anti-Americanism is at an all time high, both in the Middle East and around the world. This administration already knew and knows this, and just doesn't care. How do you square that with your argument? You can't.
--Michael Rectenwald, Citizens for Legitimate Gover
mike@legitgov.org
Wednesday April 2, 2003
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This is one of the very best analyses (definitely in the top 3) of the Iraq war, and the opposition thereto, that I have yet seen and I have seen a great many.
Foldvary has proven once again why this is among the hyper-elite of Websites for alternative news and analysis.
--Adam Monroe
AdamJonMonroe@aol.com
Wednesday April 2, 2003
Concerning the Foldvary: The Real Reason for the Iraq War
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Interesting proposition but, if true, then the pro-war hawks are just as misguided and brainwashed (find the WMD, the tenuous links to Al Qaeda, "Liberate" the Iraqi people...yeah right). And you are the only one outside the administration who understands the truth. Not ex-presidents, not ex-generals, not our allies, not the UN. Only YOU, Fred. Now just how likely is that?
--Maureen O'Brien
maureen_o_brien@hotmail.com
Tuesday April 1, 2003
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war or no war i support america
--kim coombs
kimcoombs217@hotmail.com
The publisher replies:
Me too. For instance, I support America by wanting no Americans to be killed, and no Americans to kill other people. I support America by wanting the very best leaders for it, and by wanting only truth, not propaganda, from the mainstream media. If you share these American values, that's great!
Tuesday April 1, 2003
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It's because of OIL..........and that is the only true reason....the USA Administration's devious plans will be defeated and thence they will become more and more politically isolated until their
own "culture" will implode. The Roman Empire suffered from the same arrogance and aggression...ultimately paying the price for their expansionist invasions...and they were a lot more intelligent than your sad excuse for a President and administration.
--Matt
pmonolulu@hotmail.com
Friday March 28, 2003
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I agree with your views.As an Indian I am can undersatnd what terrorism means.We have suffered in silence for more than two decades.Going by US decision to attack Iraq, I think India should have attacked pakistan long back.But we cannot afford the cost of this war, is suppose...What are your views on this...
--Amol
amolmmurti@yahoo.co.in
The publisher replies:
War is a sign of failure. It's a sign of extreme weakness when "leaders" can find no approach better than violence.
Don't spend your time thinking of reasons to kill people in Pakistan. You deserve a worthwhile goal. Spend your time working for solutions that would bring justice to everyone -- all Indians and all Pakistanis.
Thursday March 27, 2003
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You say, "I don't know where people go to get brainwashed, but wherever it was, the propaganda has been brilliantly effective."
Turn to the media. They have always been brilliantly effective.
--Dr. Obvious
Wit@hotmail.com
Thursday March 27, 2003
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I have seen the essay currently shown at a number of sights by W Clark which claims that the real reason for the war is to do with the currency that oil is to be traded in, namely euros versus dollars, and that OPEC's leanings towards euros may be very threatening to the US economy. This essay seemed to me well written and plausible, though I know nothing of the author. What is the counter-blast to this view?
--Matthew Pack
emarpee717@hotmail.com
The publisher replies:
The article to which Matthew Pack is referring is available at
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/RRiraqWar.html
Progress Report readers, feel free to view that article and evaluate it. We have seen many explanations for the killing spree currently underway -- this one, concerning economic greed, might or might not be on target -- but the bottom line is, no explanation can justify the slaying of human beings.
Tuesday March 25, 2003
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Fred,
You've been taking an awful lot of flak for your editorial, including a recent letter of my own. I would like to add however, that I think your opinions have plenty of grounding in solid fact - though they may not be as "left-wing" as many of your readers would like.
I congratulate you for having the guts to stand out in the face of a crowd. It is the rare people like you who make an outstanding site like "Progress Report" possible.
--Schuyler Lake
lake00@earthlink.net
Tuesday March 25, 2003
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The strategic reasons for the war on Iraq are complex, and opaque. The reasons for protesting against it are simple, and transparent. I think they are best summarized bt the Dali Lama, who said that peace can never be attained by violence, in the long term.
The invasion of Iraq, and before that the invasion of Afghanistan, are aspects of a simplistic and misguided response to 9/11, and to the problem of terrorism in general. It is a response, or a strategy, or a mind-set...a DIRECTION if you will, which inevitably endangers Americans' civil liberties, seriously damages our economy, and undermines our international credibility.
I believe that it is this DIRECTION which is being protested, by and large, rather than any specific objective of the administration. Many Americans sense the presence and growth of a vast and malign coalition of the powerful against the weak, within and around the Bush administration. They are afraid of it - and I think, with some reason.
--Schuyler Lake
lake00@earthlink.net
Tuesday March 25, 2003
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Dear Mr. Foldvary,
Great googly-moogly! Who did you say is brainwashed? Ever hear of Occam's Razor? Surely, it would be much easier to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in other, simpler ways? While your theory on US motives is certainly different, your dismissal of US imperialism is shockingly naive and completely ignores history. So now we are all simple tools of Soviet propaganda? LOL!! Of course US propaganda has been completely useless, eh?
Democracy in Iraq - now why didn't we think of that before? How silly of us. But then, we have only past American behavior to guide us. Let's see.... Nicaragua? No. Chile? No. Cuba? No. Guatamala? No. Ecuador, San Salvador, Brazil, Honduras, Panama? Nope again. Haiti? Well, if you discount the fact that we overthrew Aristide's populist democratic government the first time around. What about all those dictators we still support, I suppose they are just really democratic moles?
Peace is War. Slavery is Freedom. Strength is Ignorance. Arbeit macht frei. ....
This war is about domination, not liberation!
Wage Peace,
--Bob Shoe
ecrasez@yahoo.com
Monday March 24, 2003
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To Mr. Foldvary: Your reasons for why we are invading Iraq don't make sense. Are we really invading a soveriegn nation as a backhanded way of addressing the terrorist's concerns of the airbase in Saudi Arabia and the economic sanctions against Iraq? We have alienated all the nations of the world with this one and its not likely to blow over as you suggest. And it really opens the door for other nations to act aggresivley towards one another for national security reasons. How can we hold the high ground as we used to?
If we are going to do something about the airbase in Saudi Arabia, what difference does invading or not invading Iraq make. Please be clear. And its a hard arguement to make that the Arab world will be more sympathetic to our invading Iraq than to the economic sanctions we maintained. And in particular, this is an unlikely move to appease terrorist and instead it will strengthen their view of America's injustice towards Arab people.
You speak of the Iraqi regime as paying Palestian terrorist to murder Israelis. Are suicide bombers really interested in payoffs? Think about it. And those that are firing missiles towards Israel do so with homemade rockets that usually completely miss anything. This hardly seems like the Iraqi state sponsored terrorism you speak of or any kind of reason to kill what may be a hundred thousand or more Iraqi people whether they be troops or whether they be civilians.
It's ironic that Iraq has no known links to Al Queda and yet how Bush uses word associations to link 9/11 to the war in Iraq. I trust you aren't doing the same but it sure sounds like it.
--Brian Hayes
sdrshn@hotmail.com
Monday March 24, 2003
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"Almost no intellectual content to the war opposition"? "Iraqis pay Palestinians to kill Israelis"? "Soviet propaganda"? There is a common thread between these blanket, "brainwashed" claims and my main gripe with the Progress Report... There are no supporting references to actual scholarship. I know it's out there. I studied with a great teacher who showed me plently. But later when I decided to do some research of my own I came to the Progress Report and found that I couldn't use it in an academic paper because majority of the statements lacked any references to any source. But let me not be too hasty. Mr. Foldvary does cite Henry George to support his own mischaracterizations as 'thinking for himself.' That makes it all Georgist thought, now doesn't it?!
--Brian Higbie
gringodelanoche@hotmail.com
The publisher replies:
Foldvary's editorial is an opinion piece. As you and I both know, that's what editorials are. Some are better documented and reinforced than others.
The Progress Report is a source for news and opinions. You can get a lot of good material for scholarly papers here too, but this periodical is not required to provide lots of references to sources in every editorial column.
If you have suggestions for specific topics that you would like The Progress Report to explore, let us know. We like to hear constructive suggestions. Thanks for writing!
Monday March 24, 2003
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Dear Fred,
Your short-sightedness is exceeded only by your lack of objectivity. Your view is held by you alone, as in all the discussions I have had with people about this war, I have not heard anything remotely similar to what you argue. And you are the senior editor? I fear people will read your 'editorial', and then think poorly of other Georgists, as well. Fortunately, I will not confer guilt through association. One thing is for sure - you are going to alienate some folks with this one.
--Todd Petrimoulx
rolodott@hotmail.com
The publisher replies:
If you have a disagreement, don't make insults. Spell out your reasons.
Foldvary's views might or might not be held by him alone, but that is not an argument against those views. If you think he should have made other points, tell what those points are and why they are important.
Monday March 24, 2003
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Thousends of People? A Bias?
I believe the millions of people around the world are intuitively way ahead of you on this one Foldvary!
I don't think Henry George would be with you on this one either, control over our natural resourses--OIL!
--Daniel J. Roque
droque@helios.acomp.usf.edu
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